Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/24/1999 03:30 PM House L&C

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HB 40 - DEPT OF COMMERCE & RURAL DEVELOPMENT                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0113                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG announced the committee's first order of business                                                             
is discussion regarding the possible committee waiver of HB 40, "An                                                             
Act combining parts of the Department of Commerce and Economic                                                                  
Development and parts of the Department of Community and Regional                                                               
Affairs by transferring some of their duties to a new Department of                                                             
Commerce and Rural Development; transferring some of the duties of                                                              
the Department of Commerce and Economic Development and the                                                                     
Department of Community and Regional Affairs to other existing                                                                  
agencies; eliminating the Department of Commerce and Economic                                                                   
Development and the Department of Community and Regional Affairs;                                                               
relating to the Department of Commerce and Rural Development and                                                                
the commissioner of commerce and rural development; adjusting the                                                               
membership of certain multi-member bodies to reflect the transfer                                                               
of duties among departments and the elimination of departments;                                                                 
creating the office of international trade and relating to its                                                                  
duties; and providing for an effective date."  The chairman                                                                     
expressed his desire to waive HB 40 out of committee.  The waiver                                                               
has been requested by the House leadership because the bill has                                                                 
been heard in the House Community and Regional Affairs Standing                                                                 
Committee (House C&RA).  Chairman Rokeberg questioned if the bill                                                               
had moved out of C&RA.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO, Co-Chairman of the House Community and                                                                   
Regional Affairs Standing Committee, informed Chairman Rokeberg                                                                 
that HB 40 is scheduled for a second hearing tomorrow, March 25,                                                                
1999.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG commented this is a waiver pending referral.  He                                                              
noted he will be out of town on March 26.  Chairman Rokeberg                                                                    
explained HB 40 is a consolidation bill and was basically written                                                               
the previous session by the House Labor and Commerce Standing                                                                   
Committee (House L&C).  House leadership wants to move the bill to                                                              
the House Finance Standing Committee (House Finance); Chairman                                                                  
Rokeberg indicated it is his understanding the Governor will                                                                    
present the Administration's proposal on consolidation there.                                                                   
Chairman Rokeberg noted the bill's length and commented he does not                                                             
think the committee would be absolving its statutory authority on                                                               
the area.  If all the committee members agreed to a waiver, it                                                                  
would avoid a lot of work for the committee.  Chairman Rokeberg                                                                 
indicated the bill would be changed in Finance even if L&C closely                                                              
examined the legislation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0266                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO expressed his concern about waiving HB 40 out                                                             
of L&C before seeing what transpires in C&RA.  He noted C&RA had                                                                
just received the Administration's fiscal note.  Representative                                                                 
Halcro indicated C&RA members have concerns there are no rural                                                                  
members on L&C, and that the previous legislation [HB 400] had not                                                              
gone to C&RA.  He noted two other C&RA members sit on L&C.                                                                      
Representative Halcro said he cannot sign the waiver until he sees                                                              
what comes out of C&RA.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated it would be Representative Halcro's                                                                    
responsibility to read the waiver across the House floor on Friday                                                              
[March 26] and requested Representative Halcro resolve this.                                                                    
Chairman Rokeberg noted with that he would circulate the waiver,                                                                
indicating there is a problem because L&C does not meet again                                                                   
before Finance wants to hear HB 40.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0361                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO understands, but indicated again that he is                                                               
uncomfortable waiving the legislation.  He has made some                                                                        
commitments; he has assured members of his committee that their                                                                 
concerns would be taken into consideration.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG referred to the presence of the other co-chairman                                                             
of House C&RA.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0395                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS, Co-Chairman, House Community and Regional                                                                
Affairs Standing Committee, stated he has no problem waiving the                                                                
legislation.  House C&RA will not move the legislation unless the                                                               
committee is happy with it.  Representative Harris indicated the                                                                
bill before C&RA is the previous session's HB 400 that was                                                                      
basically rewritten by House L&C, and those HB 400 hearings were                                                                
pretty well-documented.  Representative Harris noted three L&C                                                                  
members would be very familiar with the legislation once it leaves                                                              
C&RA.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG thinks that is a good idea and he would recommend                                                             
the co-chairmen of C&RA speak to leadership about this issue so                                                                 
they have a clear appraisal of what is happening.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0464                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA voiced her personal objection to signing the                                                              
waiver, noting that although the previous session's committee may                                                               
have reviewed the bill, she would like to look at it.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE thinks they had the discussion last year, and                                                              
his stance is pretty much the same.  They are making small                                                                      
government big and schizophrenic at the same time; he feels that                                                                
term of art is probably applicable.  He does not support the                                                                    
concept or the legislation, with nothing against the sponsor's                                                                  
intentions.  Representative Brice indicated he would not be                                                                     
interested waiving the legislation out of committee because he does                                                             
not think the bill is appropriate business.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0539                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG indicated he would not normally waive a bill if                                                               
committee members objected.  However, as he understands it, the                                                                 
leadership has spoken with the Governor, and the Governor,                                                                      
basically as the chairman was told, wants to have the legislation                                                               
recast in Finance.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE indicated the chairman has been very good                                                                  
about not waiving legislation in this type of situation.  He                                                                    
further indicated he had received no communication from the                                                                     
Administration regarding this matter.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG explained waiving legislation is left to the                                                                  
pleasure of the chair.  He has done what he could to satisfy the                                                                
concerns of the members of the committee; therefore, if members do                                                              
not want to waive the legislation, that is their prerogative.                                                                   
Chairman Rokeberg noted this project would be left in the hands of                                                              
Representative Halcro, because the chairman will be in Anchorage                                                                
the next two days.  Chairman Rokeberg asked Representative Halcro                                                               
to talk with the Speaker about this matter; the chairman would rely                                                             
on Representative Halcro to coordinate with the leadership and see                                                              
what is to be done.  Chairman Rokeberg understands that the rule of                                                             
the chair is the official ruling with regard to waiving a bill from                                                             
committee, and nothing requires unanimous consent on a waiver.  [HB
40 WAS NOT WAIVED BY THE COMMITTEE]                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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